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01/05/2004: Breaking News

'I Bet on Baseball in 1987 and 1988'

Looks like Rob Neyer was right: the greatest dirtbag in baseball since Ty Cobb admits to betting on baseball so he can have his legacy enshrined in Cooperstown.

Pete Rose admits to betting on baseball

After denying it for nearly 15 years, sports legend Pete Rose is admitting that he bet on baseball and on his own team while managing the Cincinnati Reds. "I bet on baseball in 1987 and 1988," the baseball great told ABCNEWS' Charles Gibson in an interview to be aired on Primetime Thursday on Jan. 8.

"That was my mistake, not coming clean a lot earlier," he said.

The revelation is also expected to be included in Rose's new autobiography, My Prison Without Bars, which is to be released the same day. In his interview with Primetime, Rose says he bet without knowing how drastic the penalties would be.

"You don't think you're going to get caught," he said. He said he didn't think he was special, or above the law.

"I think what happens is you're, at the time, you're betting football and then, then what's after football is basketball & and obviously the next thing that follows is baseball. It's just a pattern that you got into."

The admission could open the door for Rose to be reinstated into baseball and voted into the Baseball Hall of Fame.


Over a three-decade career in baseball, Rose earned the nickname "Charlie Hustle" for his aggressive play and desire to win. He set dozens of records -- including breaking Ty Cobb's record for the most hits ever. That achievement, on Sept. 11, 1985, earned him a nine-minute ovation.

But in 1989, reports emerged that Rose, then the Reds' manager, was gambling on baseball. After a six-month investigation by Major League Baseball, on Aug. 24 of that year, he agreed to leave baseball for life; but wouldn't have to admit or deny that he bet on Major League Baseball. Part of the agreement allowed Rose to apply for reinstatement after a year.

Rose says he regrets lying to baseball officials in 1989. "People have to understand I wish this would have never happened," he said. "But I can't change it, it's happened. And sitting here in my position, you're just looking for a second chance."

He hopes to be reinstated by Major League Baseball now that he has admitted his past mistakes and insists he no longer gambles illegally. "The farthest thing from my mind right now is making a bet on anything," he said.

'Time to Take Responsibility'

Asked why he finally decided to admit he bet on baseball, Rose said, "It's time to clean the slate, it's time to take responsibility & I'm 14 years late." Rose told Gibson he took so long to make his admission because he "never had the opportunity to tell anybody that was going to help me."

The baseball commissioner at the time, Bart Giamatti, died just a week after banning Rose.

"I couldn't get a response from baseball for 12 years. It's like I died and, and they knew I died and they didn't want to bring me back. They were just going to let me rot," said Rose.

Rose formally applied to be reinstated in 1997 and finally got his chance to plead his case in November 2002, revealing the truth in a meeting with commissioner Bud Selig, in Milwaukee.

"The only guy I could confess to that would help me was the commissioner of baseball," he said. "And it took me all these years to get face to face."

Rose says that even after he admitted to Selig that he had bet on baseball, the commissioner didn't tell him that he was going to be reinstated.

There were no guarantees whatsoever, Rose said. "I can be sitting out on a limb for the next twenty years."

How Bad Does He Want It?

Rose says he believes he should be reinstated because he understands now that he made a mistake.

"We can rehash it all we want," he said. "And all you can do is tell people that, and if they're not going to believe you, they're not going to believe you."

Rose has been cheered when he's appeared in front of fans in recent years, and says he thinks he has the fans behind him. "I think the powers that be in baseball understand that hey, maybe the fans like this guy. Maybe the fans want, want us to give him a second chance."

There's little doubt Rose wants to get back into baseball, even manage his hometown team, the Reds. "I watch every game every night that I can. And it drives me crazy, like, when I put the Reds on, and there's 20,000 empty seats," he said. "I want them to be like the Cubs, or like the Yankees, or like Boston."


Monday the 5th of January, shoeless joe jackson noted:


where's my plaque?


Monday the 5th of January, rob neyer noted:


What we know is that Pete Rose bet on his team to win. That's a terrible crime, yes. But Joe Jackson took money in the course of facilitating his team throwing a World Series. Granted, profiting in such fashion didn't carry the stigma in 1919 that it does now; those were different times (and far from "the good old days"). But throwing a World Series is throwing a World Series, and Joe Jackson is exactly where he belongs.


Monday the 5th of January, santo26 noted:


as i was a big pete rose fan as a kid (he was on the expos for half a season and got his 4000th hit there), but isn't betting on baseball the only thing that everyone knows you cannot do or be thrown into baseball purgatory with shoeless joe? this rule is the only thing truly separating baseball from wrestling or boxing. having pete rose lingering with shoeless joe sets a good example for future asshats. if they let him back in, then he got away with it. but then again, why the fuck would A-Rod or Manny NEED to bet on baseball?


Monday the 5th of January, crazywriterinla noted:


I loved watching him play but this is proof that anything can happen in the World Wrestling Federat...I mean Major League Baseball.


Monday the 5th of January, A. Bartlett Giamati noted:


[spin spin]


Monday the 5th of January, bud selig noted:


but i'm losing money on the brewers